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ta >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. now five months before the election he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> mr. president obama, you're entitled to your own airplane and own house, but not the facts. >> i think it's safe to say the president got trounced. it was the ugliest night. >> the president is going to have to stand up and deliver. he still has a big lead in a couple of key states, but that lead will evaporate quickly. >> he has to step it up. before the debate, we had a new nbc news wall street marist poll. the president up eight points among likely voters in ohio but just two points in virginia and statistically tied in virginia. >> as the late great tim russert would say, it comes down to one state for the romney campaign -- ohio, ohio, ohio. >> now, afghanistan is always in our thoughts. but last week, there was a special incredibly disturbing milestone. the total number of u.s. military deaths in the war eclipsed the 2,000 mark. and tomorrow marks the 11th anniversary of the war in afghanistan.
ta >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. now five months before the election he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> mr. president obama, you're entitled to your own airplane and own house, but not the facts. >> i think it's safe to say the president got trounced. it was the ugliest night. >> the president is going to have to stand up and deliver. he still has a big lead in a couple of key states, but that lead will evaporate quickly. >> he...
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i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers. and i think we need more of them. look, don't believe me. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent running during the primaries and saying, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. and if somebody says absolutely anything to get elected you have to wonder what they'll say when they are president of the united states. >> so, speaker, you did say he was fundamentally dishonest after debating him in the primaries. this is not a new attack against romney policy. >> no. and i think that the challenge for the obama people is pretty simple. the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared, if he had actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? why didn't he take romney head on? first of all, the charges on the tax cuts are plain wrong, and i think virtually every analyst has said and even your deputy campaign manager said the charges made are wrong. but forgetting tha
i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers. and i think we need more of them. look, don't believe me. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent running during the primaries and saying, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. and if somebody says absolutely anything to get elected you have to wonder what they'll say when they are president of the united states. >> so, speaker, you...
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i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people out there. i love charleston. a lot of people -- rather charlotte because in charlotte you heard an entire political party speaking led by people like deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts, after you saw mr. mayor. i think it sounds better when it's a serenade than when it's a solo. what do you think about that? because the other guy has these terrible attack dogs out there, people like trump pitching the birtherism nonsense, sununu talking about being lazy. you got priebus and his nonsense about him being from europe and foreign and newt saying terrible things not to mention jack welch trying
i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people...
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what $5 trillion tax cut? what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> when the storm clouds clear, which romney will voters remember? the bone dry severe conservative or the misty massachusetts moderate? the paradox of the mittens, a multi volume extravaganza continues. john heilemann, what do we make, what do you specifically make, of this politico inside dope that says ann and tagg romney have been instrumental in this recalibrated mitt romney? >> i never want to take exception that anybody mike allen and jim vandehei write but maybe there's a straining to find a more biz zanty explanation than is necessarily the case. to question that ann romney was unhawpe with what was happening to her husband as any reasonable wife would be, given the way he was being portrayed and allowing people to portray himself. there's, you know, losing campaign, which the romney campaign was until the debate in denver, there's always a lot of second guessing and it started early in this campaign. she clearly has made her feelings known in a very dire
what $5 trillion tax cut? what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> when the storm clouds clear, which romney will voters remember? the bone dry severe conservative or the misty massachusetts moderate? the paradox of the mittens, a multi volume extravaganza continues. john heilemann, what do we make, what do you specifically make, of this politico inside dope that says ann and tagg romney have been instrumental in this recalibrated mitt romney? >> i never...
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gains taxes. >> if there ever was any. >> people are furious. all of the wealthy executives petitioned for higher taxes and said please, it was warren buffett like in some ways, we deserve to pay higher taxes, we get it, want to do it and they're freaking out, real estate prices are plunging. >> what did they expect taxes were going to go -- >> their highest marginal rate was 41%, they thought maybe it goes to 45, 50, 55. >> went to 75. >> but it's the capital gains which is killing people. if you're an entrepreneur you're not starting your company there and they're already starting to backtrack on that and the other piece of it is hollande's administration -- >> starting to backtrack. >> 75% is just for two years or they say just for two years. perhaps the more interesting story though this morning -- >> instead of the bush tax cuts. >> swan vomit lake, that is what lady gaga is calling it, this is sort of gross. ♪ people are eating their breakfast now. do not look, if you want to look, see it on the internet yourself but we're not going to s
gains taxes. >> if there ever was any. >> people are furious. all of the wealthy executives petitioned for higher taxes and said please, it was warren buffett like in some ways, we deserve to pay higher taxes, we get it, want to do it and they're freaking out, real estate prices are plunging. >> what did they expect taxes were going to go -- >> their highest marginal rate was 41%, they thought maybe it goes to 45, 50, 55. >> went to 75. >> but it's the...
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when you take that with state income tax and payroll tax and real-estate taxes and gasoline tax all, together that means small business that are highly successful will end up giving more than what they have the government. that will kill jobs. i do not want to kill jobs. my priority is to create jobs, and i will do that with everything i can do. we can do better. we do not have to stay on the path we have been on. there was a report that came out this morning on job creation this last month. there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month. the unemployment rate has come down very slowly, but it has come down nonetheless. the reason it has come down this year is due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. if you drop out of the workforce, give up and say i cannot go back to work, i will stay home, if you drop out altogether, you're no longer part of the statistics. it looks like an opponent is getting better, but if the same share of people were participating in the workforce today, as on day the president got elected, and the limit would
when you take that with state income tax and payroll tax and real-estate taxes and gasoline tax all, together that means small business that are highly successful will end up giving more than what they have the government. that will kill jobs. i do not want to kill jobs. my priority is to create jobs, and i will do that with everything i can do. we can do better. we do not have to stay on the path we have been on. there was a report that came out this morning on job creation this last month....
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because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them. therefore i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign. >> but last night, romney had a complete about face. now he is denouncing that remark all together. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessns, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. and that's been demonstrated throughout my life. and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president, it will be about helping the 100%. >> cnn political editor paul steinhauser joins me now in washington. romney chose to clarify his remark on fox. no accident there perhaps. >> he was doing an interview there last night with his running mate, paul ryan. i think what you heard last night was the answer mitt romney would have given in the presidential debate wednesday night if he had been asked by president obama
because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them. therefore i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign. >> but last night, romney had a complete about face. now he is denouncing that remark all together. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessns, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. i absolutely...
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dollar tax cut. >> for 18 months, he has been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election. is he saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> bret, how would you handle that, the tax debate? >> well, i thought governor romney really handled it well. he never let the president mischaracterize his tax plan. he, every tame the president tried to say it was a 5 trillion-dollar spending. governor romney went back, corrected the president, and then went back immediately on offense against the president's economic policies. >> of course, the president. >> he handled it exactly the way it should have been handled. >> of course the president didn't want to hear the word solyndra but it was brow up. listen to this. >> you put $90 billion, like 50 years worth of breaks into solar and wind. to solyndra and face cure and tesla and inner one. i have a friend who says you don't just pick the winners and losers, you pick the losers. >> good exchange there. real quickly because we're out of t
dollar tax cut. >> for 18 months, he has been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election. is he saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> bret, how would you handle that, the tax debate? >> well, i thought governor romney really handled it well. he never let the president mischaracterize his tax plan. he, every tame the president tried to say it was a 5 trillion-dollar spending. governor romney went back, corrected the president, and then went back...
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when you compare the top marginal income tax rate, the tax rate that top earners get taxed over the highest threshold with employment, growth happens when taxes are higher, not lower. let me show you a chart that the president could have used this week to simplify the whole debate. this is what the election boils down to right here. larry bartels' chart makes it clear, under democratic presidents, everyone does better, even the very top. talk about trickle-down big government but more importantly, americans are ready to move on, even before the good news job numbers were released, an nbc/"wall street journal" survey showed that 44% of americans believe the economy will improve in the next year and four in ten say the country is headed in the right direction, the highest percentage on this question since june of 2009. here with me is cnbc contributor, dan dicker, a 25-year trading veteran of the new york mercantile exchange, civil right attorney mya wiley. attorney raul ruiz and a contributor to "the nation" magazine. thank you for being here. let me ask a question, does 7.8% wipe away wedne
when you compare the top marginal income tax rate, the tax rate that top earners get taxed over the highest threshold with employment, growth happens when taxes are higher, not lower. let me show you a chart that the president could have used this week to simplify the whole debate. this is what the election boils down to right here. larry bartels' chart makes it clear, under democratic presidents, everyone does better, even the very top. talk about trickle-down big government but more...
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how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> two questions, is there more pressure on the vice president now to be aggressive coming off the president's debate, and are you worried about gaffes like that? >> well, look, i don't think that was a gaffe, george. i think what the vice president was talking about is what he's talked about every day, which is a series of eight years of -- >> he said they were buried the last four years. >> well, we've been digging out for what was an avalanche of bad economic decisions over the past eight years during the bush administration, and what mitt romney and paul ryan want to do is take us back to that exact same failed economic theory, talk down tax cuts, eviscerating the investments we know we need to grow our economy from the middle out rather than from the top down. look, i know vice president biden. i know he's looking forward to having a spirited exchange about ideas. i simply hope this, i hope what paul ryan does is something fundamentally different than what mitt romney does, and t
how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> two questions, is there more pressure on the vice president now to be aggressive coming off the president's debate, and are you worried about gaffes like that? >> well, look, i don't think that was a gaffe, george. i think what the vice president was talking about is what he's talked about every day, which is a series of eight years of -- >> he said they were buried the last four years. >>...
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he is right in saying that 47% of the country pays no income taxes. that's a fact. but conservetism means you talk hope. you speak of lifting those people up so they can make it in america. they want to become taxpayers. that's where he was tonal deaf. >> but his response now is saying he was completely wrong which is different than what he said earlier which is like well, i stated it inelegantly. he's now using this blanket statement which allows people to interpret it as they will. >> i think what he is saying there is he was completely wrong to speak pejoratively of the 47% and he was completely wrong to do that. he is right about the basic economics of our country. >> okay. >> we have gotten to the point where the country is half paying no income taxes and getting the advantages of government. >> roland -- >> does that mean it's the right number, too high, too low, that's a good argument to get into. >> i'm utterly confused right now. i'm utterly confused because ari is trying to explain the original comment from mitt romney which i thought mitt romney was very
he is right in saying that 47% of the country pays no income taxes. that's a fact. but conservetism means you talk hope. you speak of lifting those people up so they can make it in america. they want to become taxpayers. that's where he was tonal deaf. >> but his response now is saying he was completely wrong which is different than what he said earlier which is like well, i stated it inelegantly. he's now using this blanket statement which allows people to interpret it as they will....
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they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there. >> john, before we eviscerate mitt romney entirely, he hasn't jumped on the bandwagon, though he did downplay the jobless rate, and he misstated the reason behind it. take a listen to this, john. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> in fact, the unemployment rate fell because more people were working. i mean, this man's not capable of telling the truth about anything. >> well, he's actually correct in some past months but not in today's job. >> but he was speaking today. >> and so what he's doing now is h
they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there....
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vo: why won't romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on flying and tomorrow we will up it yet again. that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type 2 diabetes. me... thinking my only option was the vial and syringe dad used. and me... discovering once-daily levemir® flexpen. flexpen® is prefilled. doesn't need refrigeration for up to 42 days. no drawing from a vial. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. flexpen® is insulin delivery... my way. levemir® (insulin detemir [rdna origin] injection) is a long-acting insulin u
vo: why won't romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while...
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the wake of the 47% hidden video where romney said, you know, half the people in this country don't tax. they are not going to vote for me no matter what. what they are trying to do democrats and very aggressive militant group of public employees are trying to do is really portray romney as a man out of touch. he lives in a mansion with an elevator for his car. and the poor garbage man is outside. >> bill: romney never did anything with the guy. >> really low blow like the ad of romney killing the guy's wife with cancer. >> bill: romney probably doesn't even know who the guy is because romney is not in la jolla very often. >> i would venture to say most people in new york don't know who their sanitation worker is. >> bill: here is the sneaky thing. lee saunders is an at-large member of the democratic national committee. >> right. >> come on. i mean, this is so bogus and i guess they are appealing to just ignorant voters. >> it's an effective ad. they have gotten 1.4 million hits on youtube. 1.6 members of as me. >> probably all of them. >> the union members. but i agree, a low blow. >>
the wake of the 47% hidden video where romney said, you know, half the people in this country don't tax. they are not going to vote for me no matter what. what they are trying to do democrats and very aggressive militant group of public employees are trying to do is really portray romney as a man out of touch. he lives in a mansion with an elevator for his car. and the poor garbage man is outside. >> bill: romney never did anything with the guy. >> really low blow like the ad of...
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i forgot which one. >> the one with the payroll tax extension. the unemployment claim extens n extension. >> well, that's one and you no what he? if they were batting in the major leagues they'd be off the team right quick. we need to put job creation first. >> we all agree with that. we don't want to talk about the pipeline or the nlrb then, that's for sure. >> we can talk about any number of things including the fact that domestic energy production is way up under president obama. >> we heard about that in the debate in spite of instead of because of. >> not in spite of. the fact of the matter is president obama has reduced our dependence on foreign oil over these last few years, we've seen jobs created in the solar industry, in green industries. our state ranks fourth among the 50 states in terms of the number of jobs in the green sector so there are things we can and must do in order to make this recovery happen more quickly. but the fact of the matter is, not since 2005 have we had 30 months in a row of private sector job growth. we're seein
i forgot which one. >> the one with the payroll tax extension. the unemployment claim extens n extension. >> well, that's one and you no what he? if they were batting in the major leagues they'd be off the team right quick. we need to put job creation first. >> we all agree with that. we don't want to talk about the pipeline or the nlrb then, that's for sure. >> we can talk about any number of things including the fact that domestic energy production is way up under...
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let's handle taxes first of all. governor romney on the stump is insisting his 20% across the board reduction in tax rates would benefit and middle class and small business would give them very needed tax break, at the same time closing loopholes for wealthiest americans would assure they pay the same amount of taxes. the rally in fishersville, virginia, big rally, attended by thousands of people, he insisted president obama's plan to raise taxes on people more than $250,000 would be a job killer. here is what he said. >> he talk as about stimulus. talks about hiring more government workers. talks about the government making investments and of course he talks about raising taxes. vice president blurted out the truth today. they plan on raising taxes on the american people and that well kill jobs. we will not let that happen. we want to create jobs, not kill jobs in this country. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: governor romney also driving home the notion he is for 100% of americans. really trying to walk back from
let's handle taxes first of all. governor romney on the stump is insisting his 20% across the board reduction in tax rates would benefit and middle class and small business would give them very needed tax break, at the same time closing loopholes for wealthiest americans would assure they pay the same amount of taxes. the rally in fishersville, virginia, big rally, attended by thousands of people, he insisted president obama's plan to raise taxes on people more than $250,000 would be a job...
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nobody knows what their tax rate will be. so companies who can put off hiring are putting it off. >> if you were to advise the romney camp because they're counting on stumping on the bad economy, bad job growth, all of that, what would you advise them right now? would they need to recraft their message? stay away from it? how do they capitalize on their message and at the same time, not contradict what the latest numbers and indicators are saying? >> well, mitt romney is right when he says the economy is not recovering enough, but i think he's got a problem which is that when people sort of intuitively feel things getting better and they hear a candidate who keeps saying things are not getting better. things are not getting better fast enough. he comes off as a gloomy gus. so i think the best thing romney can probably do is we know he's going to continue telling us what's wrong with the economy. he's generally right about that. he should start talking about some of the positive proactive things he plans to do to really reinvi
nobody knows what their tax rate will be. so companies who can put off hiring are putting it off. >> if you were to advise the romney camp because they're counting on stumping on the bad economy, bad job growth, all of that, what would you advise them right now? would they need to recraft their message? stay away from it? how do they capitalize on their message and at the same time, not contradict what the latest numbers and indicators are saying? >> well, mitt romney is right when...
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, zero tax returns i think. what did you find out, anything? >> billion in a prior story, not this story, when we looked at earmarks we did find earmarks that was very close to his undeveloped property. >> right, i saw a nice deal here on a land deal in 1998, 700 grand. anyway, just wondered. >> right, exactly. we have a whole host of stories that we've done that look more at this intersection between their duties and their personal assets and that's -- >> that's the best way, not with a couple of, you know, stock tips in congress. i like it ben they do the earmarks, where they buy something and then maybe check the former speaker, too. anyway, right? kimberly, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you very much for having me. >> all right, see you. >>> oh, it's me. coming up, this morning's top stories set to foreboding music. the rails for the white house, both hitting the campaign trail. former governors face off in the issues and former hp boss carly fiorina, why she calls the board a serial dysfunction, and no
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they've got to. >> low taxes, deregulation. >> where was the tax reform? let's stop right there. where was reince priebus, where's his tax reform? mitt was brilliant on lower tax rates, broadening the base. lower tax rates gives you incentives. to me that was a huge winner in the debate but i didn't hear that tonight. >> i think you also need to focus on small businesses. small businesses we know are going to be affected very badly by obama care and the obama care taxes. mitt romney made a point of talking about how small businesses file as individuals sometimes under the individual rate. so i think that reince, it would be in his best interest to really talk to these small business owners throughout the country. >> keith boykin, let's go to joe bid biden. a trillion dollar tax hike, he sounds like a good i de. 1.1 trillion deficit today. that all sounds like trickle down government, keith. big tax hikes and big deficits. >> joe biden was talking about letting the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. and if you're serious about cutting the deficit, larry, you got to
they've got to. >> low taxes, deregulation. >> where was the tax reform? let's stop right there. where was reince priebus, where's his tax reform? mitt was brilliant on lower tax rates, broadening the base. lower tax rates gives you incentives. to me that was a huge winner in the debate but i didn't hear that tonight. >> i think you also need to focus on small businesses. small businesses we know are going to be affected very badly by obama care and the obama care taxes. mitt...
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rates and lowering tax revenues. he wants to lower the rates for the rich, and for everybody else. but he says, by eliminating loopholes and deductions to which the rich have much more access than anybody else, they will broaden the base and leave the revenue neutral or increase revenue. he says, i will not allow the share of the taxes that the rich are paying to go up. that undoes $100 million worth of obama advertising in 5 minutes. >> sean: you know, it's funny. i said something very similar -- on my radio program. it is amazing because they spent millions of dollars to position mitt romney and create a narrative about mitt romney and a caricature of mitt romney. wants dirty air, dirty water and doesn't care about children with autism or down's synd scprom wants to throw granny over the cliff. romney rendered all of those millions of dollars wasted. there is a side by side and people saw for themselves, a very different person than a caricature that the democrats were painting of him. where does he go from here? h
rates and lowering tax revenues. he wants to lower the rates for the rich, and for everybody else. but he says, by eliminating loopholes and deductions to which the rich have much more access than anybody else, they will broaden the base and leave the revenue neutral or increase revenue. he says, i will not allow the share of the taxes that the rich are paying to go up. that undoes $100 million worth of obama advertising in 5 minutes. >> sean: you know, it's funny. i said something very...
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you cannot cut taxes by $5 trillion as he's doing and simply say, oh, i don't have that tax cut. i'm not going to cut taxes for the wealthy when the average high-income earner is going to get a $250,000 tax cut. >> let me stop you right there because the romney campaign has a new ad just out on that point and say the president and his team are aligned when they call it a $5 trillion tax cut. >> president obama continues to distort mitt romney's economic plan. the latest, not telling the truth about mitt romney's tax plan. the ap says it doesn't add up. abc news, mostly fiction, even the obama campaign admitted it it wasn't true. >> well, okay, stipulated it won't be near $5 trillion. >> so does the campaign now accept that the cuts will be less than $5 trillion? >> no, absolutely not. i mean, look, if you're going to reduce the bush tax rates by 20% in the estate tax, in the amt, change the corporate rate and a whole host of other changes it epzs up in a reduction of revenue. the question for governor romney is what loopholes will you close supposedly to make up for that revenue
you cannot cut taxes by $5 trillion as he's doing and simply say, oh, i don't have that tax cut. i'm not going to cut taxes for the wealthy when the average high-income earner is going to get a $250,000 tax cut. >> let me stop you right there because the romney campaign has a new ad just out on that point and say the president and his team are aligned when they call it a $5 trillion tax cut. >> president obama continues to distort mitt romney's economic plan. the latest, not telling...
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i am a tax cheat, i don't pay my taxes. if i'm walking down the street and someone has a gun to my head should a scoop protect me? >>lis: of course. yes. you got me both ways because is different. a firefighter for your home should come there and protect you and your children your family whether you pay the fee. the point is it is a fee, not a tax. just to make sure that your community is safe. that's all it is. $150? really? really? really? >> i'm pretty sure whatever reviewing court looks at it will find that the label does not rule the day. it is the effect, which is a levee, a charge, a charge on the taxpayers of california and they will pay it with a two-thirds majority vote. there has to a constitutionality and procedural constitutionality. >> if we allow this to lap in every town, can't they levee the fees all over the place if everything? >>lis: you go, taking it out of the public safety or public service which is where it belongs, you go to the public library, you get a book out, you are late on the book, you get a
i am a tax cheat, i don't pay my taxes. if i'm walking down the street and someone has a gun to my head should a scoop protect me? >>lis: of course. yes. you got me both ways because is different. a firefighter for your home should come there and protect you and your children your family whether you pay the fee. the point is it is a fee, not a tax. just to make sure that your community is safe. that's all it is. $150? really? really? really? >> i'm pretty sure whatever reviewing...
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but in this case on the tax plan, not so much obama care and other things, it did. was it played in the clips? >> it was. >> very little. >> there was a misperception on the argument over taxes. if you watched mitt romney over the campaign, he has argue head will cut everyone's tack bus not change the shiefr the burden that the wealthy will pay. now, that may turn out to be true or not if he's ever elect and goes to congress with a plan. but he did not change his plan the night of the debate. what he tried to do finally in then tire campaign is rebut the very effective obama argument that he's cutting taxes for the wealthy and sticking the middle class with a tab. it's not something the republicans believe is true. >> the key word was share, the share was taxes that the wealthy will pay. and so i was surprised the president didn't go after that too. >> is it simply that -- i've seen 20 times that. is it the other stuff, the stuff we're talking about here, the stuff that's considered too boring? >> yes, absolutely. yes. that sflies that depresses me. >> would that jo
but in this case on the tax plan, not so much obama care and other things, it did. was it played in the clips? >> it was. >> very little. >> there was a misperception on the argument over taxes. if you watched mitt romney over the campaign, he has argue head will cut everyone's tack bus not change the shiefr the burden that the wealthy will pay. now, that may turn out to be true or not if he's ever elect and goes to congress with a plan. but he did not change his plan the...
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senate and accused governor romney of not paying taxes for ten years. last week, nancy pelosi implied that there was no security at the embassy in libya was because the republicans had employed cuts in that area. they understand the economy is not helpful to them. i would remind the governor that the republican congress has spent many, many job creating bills to the democratically controlled senate and harry reid has refused to let them get to voted on. >> governor romney, the consensus is he came out ahead in the debates. do you think he's going to be able to sustain that momentum? has he energized the base? >> he's clearly energized the base. i was just in denver speaking to a conservative group there. i've been doing some women for romney events. people are clearly very fired up. what they saw was a fantastic debate performance by governor romney. what they also saw was a contrast between someone and governor romney who understand the fooacts and could relate th to every day people's lives. president obama, it wasn't just that his performance was lis
senate and accused governor romney of not paying taxes for ten years. last week, nancy pelosi implied that there was no security at the embassy in libya was because the republicans had employed cuts in that area. they understand the economy is not helpful to them. i would remind the governor that the republican congress has spent many, many job creating bills to the democratically controlled senate and harry reid has refused to let them get to voted on. >> governor romney, the consensus...
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i don't have a tax cut that's $4 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers. i think we need more. don't believe me. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries and saying mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> you know, the thing is again, robert gibbs is saying this five days late e, four days later. why didn't the president say that the night of the debate? and secondly, i don't know about you guys, but i'm thinking if it was my gut reaction and again, i was harshly critical of mitt romney and i'm a guy that worries first about debt and i always have. i heard mitt romney say i won't pass a tax cut that raises the deficit. sounds pretty much like the romney doctrine to me. that's what i took away from that debate. >> coming up, the mayor of chicago, rahm emanuel joins us. how chicago is going up against san antonio to see which city can get healthier, first. and up next, a new pbs documentary goes behind the scenes of the presidential campaigns for the person
i don't have a tax cut that's $4 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers. i think we need more. don't believe me. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries and saying mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> you know, the thing is again, robert gibbs is saying this five days late e, four days later. why didn't the president say that the night of the debate? and secondly, i don't...
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he has been talking about raising taxes, raising trillions of dollars in taxes. having that one soundbite that biden can across with as a gaffe could really hurt. >> heather: do you think we'll see a more aggressive vice president biden? >> i hope so. one thing about the first debate that democrats will learn that mitt romney and paul ryan, they fact checkers they will get into it. they will say things over and over again that are not true. during the debate the vice president needs to say during the debate, paul ryan that is not true. at the time they can't rely on fact checks for after the debate. >> heather: vice president biden has had problems were with his own fact checkingers. coming out of the presidential debate, they said that president obama lost the momentum and governor romney gained some momentum. do you think that paul ryan will be able to keep that momentum up? >> i absolutely do. he is great legislator. he has a vision for this country. people, when he was picked as a vice presidential candidate republicans rallied around him. he has been helpful
he has been talking about raising taxes, raising trillions of dollars in taxes. having that one soundbite that biden can across with as a gaffe could really hurt. >> heather: do you think we'll see a more aggressive vice president biden? >> i hope so. one thing about the first debate that democrats will learn that mitt romney and paul ryan, they fact checkers they will get into it. they will say things over and over again that are not true. during the debate the vice president needs...
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>> they get a tax credit. they make a movie here, 25 cents of every dollar you spend is a tax credit. you pay lower taxes. if, however, you are just a regular person in california, hollywood wants you to pay more in taxes. they support governor brown who suppose has whopping tax increase for everybody in california. so that's the hypocrisy. hollywood wants a tax break for them, but maneuvers to get higher taxes for everybody else in the state of california. >> steve: i got a news flash for jerry brown, his state is broke. >> yes, it is. >> steve: so for them to extend these tax breaks, and it would be essentially a tax credit on your state taxes that the movie companies would enjoy, this is not the time to be giving rich guys big fat tax breaks. >> by the way, 12 other states which used to offer the same kind of tax breaks to movie companies, come make a movie in my state, they've withdrawn on limited those because they have run out of money. california has run out of money, but they say keep that gravy train
>> they get a tax credit. they make a movie here, 25 cents of every dollar you spend is a tax credit. you pay lower taxes. if, however, you are just a regular person in california, hollywood wants you to pay more in taxes. they support governor brown who suppose has whopping tax increase for everybody in california. so that's the hypocrisy. hollywood wants a tax break for them, but maneuvers to get higher taxes for everybody else in the state of california. >> steve: i got a news...
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listen to this. >> governor romney and i both agree our cooperate tax rate is too high. we both agree we've got to boost american energy production and it appears we've got some agreement that a marketplace to work has to have some regulation. i suspect that on social security we've got a somewhat similar position. >> you understand what he was trying do there? >> yeah, i do. >> i got a bit confused. >> i think you're right, wolf. and i think that is a disastrous approach. the truth of the matter is mitt romney right now is the head of a right-wing extremist party called the republican party. it wasn't always the case. that's what they are today. if the president cannot differentiate himself clearly from right-wing extremism, we've got a lot of problems as a nation and he's got problems as a candidate running for re-election. in terms of social security, it is absurd for the president to say that he and romney are coming down in the same way. social security today has a $2.7 trillion surplus. social security hasn't contributed one nickel to the deficit, can pay out benef
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tax hike. >> warren buffett will pay more in taxes. that sort of works but he never really got there. >> they think the same thing as what he said last week after he said that the middle class has been buried over the past four years. >> i just don't think people that are dumb. >> i will tell you, though, i would be willing to bet some money that the vice president will be much more effective in his debate with paul ryan than the president was in his debate with mitt romney because the vice president is used to getting beaten up. >> well, that's not a really high bar, is it, now. gene robinson, you wrote "obama's off night gives romney an opening." and i do think that joe biden has been out there and is used to getting beat up. and i think will do very well in the debate along with paul ryan. but your column, talking about obama's off night. can you help us out here? we're trying to figure out what happened to president obama. where was he? >> where was he? that's the question. it was really, you know, you kind of watched the thing unf
tax hike. >> warren buffett will pay more in taxes. that sort of works but he never really got there. >> they think the same thing as what he said last week after he said that the middle class has been buried over the past four years. >> i just don't think people that are dumb. >> i will tell you, though, i would be willing to bet some money that the vice president will be much more effective in his debate with paul ryan than the president was in his debate with mitt...
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right now that's what our tax system does. we underwrite and subsidize the recklessly irresponsible through bailouts and insurance companis and car companies. the fact is, people who are working hard and doing well. and small business owners and big business owners who are not asking for uncle sugar to work for them they are getting punished. change that and we can get out of the debt problem. governor mike huckabee always a pleasure to have you on board. >> thank you, uma. >> he raised the bar and it is mitt romney's job to live up to the standards. >> you can't have a down moment. >> we see it in the polls. the polls are change things are getting closer and mitt romney is in the league. they saw them for the first time together . he cannot let down. >> my one on one with michael reagan, the son of a president many people credit with historic debate moments. ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare
right now that's what our tax system does. we underwrite and subsidize the recklessly irresponsible through bailouts and insurance companis and car companies. the fact is, people who are working hard and doing well. and small business owners and big business owners who are not asking for uncle sugar to work for them they are getting punished. change that and we can get out of the debt problem. governor mike huckabee always a pleasure to have you on board. >> thank you, uma. >> he...
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>>reporter: governor romney took aims at president obama's plan to raise taxes on wealthy americans by $1 trillion saying that hits the small job market unduly hard and could result in 700,000 jobs simply evaporating. >>trace: we mention governor romney's second battle ground state the day. how is he tailoring the message to the different communities he is visiting? >>reporter: when he comes to st. petersburg area on the west coast of florida he will talk about medicare. it is an important issue through the entire state of florida. early today in virginia he was in coal country meeting with out of the work coal miners talking about what he sees his vision for coal versus president obama's vision. governor romney has been critical of the coal in the past but insists he is a friend and says president obama would be hostile. here is governor romney in virginia. >> the ahead of the epa has said the regulations on burning coal are so stringent it is impossible do build a new coal-powered plant. i don't believe putting our coal under the ground forever but we should take advantage of it and
>>reporter: governor romney took aims at president obama's plan to raise taxes on wealthy americans by $1 trillion saying that hits the small job market unduly hard and could result in 700,000 jobs simply evaporating. >>trace: we mention governor romney's second battle ground state the day. how is he tailoring the message to the different communities he is visiting? >>reporter: when he comes to st. petersburg area on the west coast of florida he will talk about medicare. it is...
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by the way, when you take that together with state income tax and real estate tax and gasoline tax and -- that means that small businesses that are highly acceptable will give half of what they've got to the government. that's going to kill jobs. i don't want to kill jobs. my priority is creating jobs. i'll help small business do that with everything i can do. now, we can do better. we don't have to stay on the path we've been on. we can do better. there was a report that just came out this morning on job creation this last month. there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate, as you know, this year has come down very slowly, but it's come down, nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. if you just drop out of the work force, if you just give up and say, look, i can't go back to work, i'm just going to stay home, if you just drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics, so it looks like unemployment is getting better
by the way, when you take that together with state income tax and real estate tax and gasoline tax and -- that means that small businesses that are highly acceptable will give half of what they've got to the government. that's going to kill jobs. i don't want to kill jobs. my priority is creating jobs. i'll help small business do that with everything i can do. now, we can do better. we don't have to stay on the path we've been on. we can do better. there was a report that just came out this...
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i'm a former federal tax lawyer and a business owner. i get how jobs are created but i also understand how they're destroyed. >> joining me now is her competitor, jim graves, the democratic nominee for minnesota's sixth congressional district. jim, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me on. appreciate it. >> you had no political experience, jim, until you began your campaign. i'm sure your constituents want to hear what makes you qualified to serve in congress? >> i'm a business guy. i've created a lot of jobs. i understand the economy, budgets, how to get things done. obviously michele bachmann doesn't. so i'm prepared to go to congress and get things done, bring people together, make this economy work again and she doesn't. >> you just heard the congresswoman, though. how does your plan for the economy differentiate from hers? >> first and foremost we're not going to lower the minimum wage. that doesn't help anybody. what we need is good wage jobs. she's pledged to go to norquist and coke brothers. i'm pledging myself to
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don't like the tax policy numbers, find your own. there is a lot of that going on. >> in fairness i think what mitt romney said is defensible in the sense that, in fact, we have seen millions of people drop out of the labor force. if they hadn't dropped out and they seem to have because -- some is anyonie i aging but a l find jobs. that's a fair thing to say. >> he's on stage alan west who on friday suggests this was part of leftist radicalism at work and part of the chicago machine manipulating labor statistics. >> indeed. then there are the crazy people. >> that speaks volumes. >> he probably didn't pick the appearance knowing what the jobs figures would be. i think it's fair to say the economy has been bachltd obama doesn't have much to do with it. the president can't do that much to control the economy. but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every f
don't like the tax policy numbers, find your own. there is a lot of that going on. >> in fairness i think what mitt romney said is defensible in the sense that, in fact, we have seen millions of people drop out of the labor force. if they hadn't dropped out and they seem to have because -- some is anyonie i aging but a l find jobs. that's a fair thing to say. >> he's on stage alan west who on friday suggests this was part of leftist radicalism at work and part of the chicago machine...
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why is it when you're taking advantage of a tax break and you're a businessman you're a businessman. but if you're taking advantage of something you're a moocher. >> cenk: ana. >> it might be entertaining, but it's substantive. when i was watching the debates that's what i do for a living. i have to pay attention to those things. i have a hard time doing it because it's so boring. the candidates have to be so polite. right there you see stewart's passion. you see he's being persuasive. why obama can't be like that? i understand the stress and pressure, it's a huge part of it, but obama has to be as respectful as possible, mitt romney has to be respectful. they can't raise their voices. i can't stand that about our debates. >> obama could have been better than he was. he'll never be jon stewart. he'll never strife to be jon stewart. but that's a great point about mooching and entitlements. that's great but he can't deliver it from standing on an apple cart to be higher and he can't joke. >> you'll always get people who will tear someone down. the small things that happen in debates, w
why is it when you're taking advantage of a tax break and you're a businessman you're a businessman. but if you're taking advantage of something you're a moocher. >> cenk: ana. >> it might be entertaining, but it's substantive. when i was watching the debates that's what i do for a living. i have to pay attention to those things. i have a hard time doing it because it's so boring. the candidates have to be so polite. right there you see stewart's passion. you see he's being...
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who pays taxes ought to get tax relief. a of my plan is in place the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today and the poorest of americans, 6 million families, 7 million people won't pay any tax at all. >> notice the slight of hands. the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today. not a higher percentage of their income in taxes since that would be an outright lie. very common bit of conservative bit of misdirection used to hide the distributional tax cuts they're proposing. for instance, even in herman cain's explicitly progressive world of a 9/9/9 flat tax, you can imagine the wealthiest households would still pay a majority of total income tax revenue. that doesn't reflect how progressive or fair the taxation system is. it reflects just how unequal incomes are. bush did it again in the next debate too. >> my plan is that the wealthy people pay 62% of the taxes today after which they pay 64%. this is a fair plan. you know why? because the tax code is
who pays taxes ought to get tax relief. a of my plan is in place the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today and the poorest of americans, 6 million families, 7 million people won't pay any tax at all. >> notice the slight of hands. the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today. not a higher percentage of their income in taxes since that would be an outright lie. very common bit of conservative bit of misdirection...
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taxes. >> that's correct. it's just the way he formlated it. >> thanks very much. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] almost nothing can dampen a baby's mood, when he wakes up dry in pampers. unlike other diapers, pampers has 3 absorbent layers, for up to 12 hours of protection overnight, and more beautiful mornings. ♪ [ female announcer ] pampers. peaceful nights. playful days. not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪ that's my world. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop
taxes. >> that's correct. it's just the way he formlated it. >> thanks very much. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] almost nothing can dampen a baby's mood, when he wakes up dry in pampers. unlike other diapers, pampers has 3 absorbent layers, for up to 12 hours of protection overnight, and more beautiful mornings. ♪ [ female announcer ] pampers. peaceful nights. playful days. not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this...